Leading With Faith in the Logistics Industry (w/ Todd Stewart)
On this episode, we’re joined by Todd Stewart.
Todd Stewart is a follower of Christ and former CEO of Gulf Winds, where he led with a bold conviction: put God first, and trust the results. Starting as a forklift operator, Todd rose to lead and eventually sell the company, all while integrating faith and business. Under his leadership, the company’s mission statement was “To glorify God by providing world-class logistics services through continual investment in our people, clients, community, and the world we live in.”
He’s traveled globally sharing the gospel and has been honored by C12 and International Cooperating Ministries for his impact. He’s the author of Delivering Hope: Leading a Business That Builds the Kingdom of God.
Christian Business Leader is the podcast for marketplace Christians seeking to explore and apply God’s will for business for the purpose of cultivating Christ-Centered Companies.
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SPEAKER_00 0:02
Welcome to the Christian Business Leader Podcast, where Christ following business leaders explore God’s will and ways for business. This show is a ministry of the Center for Christianity and Business at Houston Christian University and features conversations with today’s Christ-centered business leaders who are representing Christ faithfully in the business world. I’m your host, Darren Scheer, and if you want to make your work, leadership, and company’s culture more Christ-centered, you’ve come to the right place. On this episode, we’re joined by Todd Stewart. Todd is a follower of Christ and former CEO of Gulf Winds, where he led with a bold conviction to put God first and trust the results. Starting as a forklift operator, Todd rose to lead and eventually sell the company, all while integrating faith and business. Under his leadership, the company’s mission statement was to glorify God by providing world-class logistics services through continual investment in our people, clients, community, and the world we live in. And I’m I’m eager to hear if that is still the mission statement under the new ownership. So we’ll we’ll talk about that. He’s traveled globally, sharing the gospel, and has been honored by C12 and International Cooperating Ministries for his impact. And he’s the author of the book Delivering Hope: Leading a Business That Builds the Kingdom of God. Todd, welcome to the Christian Business Leader Podcast. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me, Darren. Todd, when did you first realize God wants to be involved in your work and business? Well, I would say he found me for sure.
SPEAKER_01 1:40
Did not grow up in the church. And so uh 17, my grandfather told me I needed Jesus in my life, didn’t understand the treasure. He laid at my feet that day. Uh, went off to college, got married, came home, uh, started uh the business with my father who’d been laid off in his early 50s, literally cashed in his 401k to start the business. And so uh two years into the business, got invited to a men’s Bible study by a guy I had played football with there at Umble High School here in Houston. And uh this guy had kind of pursued me over a number of years, and and praise God, we know God pursues the lost, he goes after that one, and I was definitely that one. And uh man, I just said yes that one time. I walked into that men’s Bible study, which I was really hoping to learn a little bit about marriage and play a little basketball. But at the end of the day, uh God really just got a hold of my heart. I actually opened the word of God for real literally for the first time and started reading for myself. And uh, I just remember a pastor preaching a message that said, God’s gonna give you opportunities in your life, and you have to seize the moment. And for me, that was the moment. And so I literally stood up that day, uh, walked forward, surrendered my life to Christ. It was everything changed. So, mind you, I’m president in training, I’m an only child. My parents risked everything to start the business. And so, you know, I’m trying to really decide what am I going to do in my life, you know, because I felt a strong call actually early on, even towards ministry. Um, but I just knew I knew Jesus, my life had been changed. I wanted others to know that. And so as I would go to work, I would just look for opportunities to talk to people. And we were a very small company at that time, but even as a small company, I realized that uh there were people that needed Christ that I could I could share with. And so uh very fortunate to kind of learn how to share my faith early. And um that kind of spilled over into the workplace and uh really as I struggled with that kind of call to ministry versus uh you know, professional minister, if you will, versus being in the marketplace, over time I just realized that that God had me there to reach people that probably wouldn’t walk through the doors of a church. And uh over 25 years, I I did that, and that was really my calling in life, and just so thankful and so excited to have had that opportunity.SPEAKER_00 4:00
Yeah. So the company’s mission statement to glorify God by providing world-class logistics services through continual investment in our people, clients, community, and the world we live in. And some of our listeners may recall that from the book, The Christ-Centered Company, because that was one of the examples shared as an example of a Christ-centered corporate purpose statement. Uh, was that statement already established when you became president? Or was that some was and I’m I’m trying to understand your father’s commitment to dedicating this business to the Lord, or was that something that um happened later?SPEAKER_01 4:42
It really happened later. Uh, it was kind of the launching pad, if you will, when I took over as president. And so I was very fortunate. My dad did indeed come to faith after me, about five years after I did. So we did get to serve the Lord together. Uh ultimately he passed. I actually preached his funeral. Uh, but the first thing I did when I took over as president after we had gone through a challenging season was establish the mission statement and our values, faith, integrity, stewardship, service, and excellence. And so I really felt it, and actually it’s funny, I look back, even in the book I uh Delivering Hope, I include an email that I had actually sent to him and to his partner at the time. And that was about seven years prior to me taking over as president. And it basically said, uh, you know, I want to, I want to be very clear with how we put forward our mission and what we do as an organization. My first thing I think I put in there was that we give 100% credit to Jesus Christ for what he’s done in our lives. And so it was already kind of stirring in my heart, even years before I actually had the opportunity to hold the platform, if you will. And uh, I just look back and think, man, that was so God because I found that email after the fact and uh just looked back and thought, wow, God was already in the works of moving this company in that direction, even before I was actually appointed, if you will, to that role.SPEAKER_00 6:07
Yeah. And and you mentioned, and because you were you were so bold with your faith and bringing faith forward in this in this company, and and you shared on a panel discussion that we both got to participate in just a couple of days ago at Houston Christian University, that to minimize the risk of getting sued, because a lot of companies, a lot of business leaders are afraid that if I really step out and bring my faith forward, that we’re gonna get sued, we’re gonna get in trouble with HR and the law. Uh, but but you were saying that you need to be bold in order to minimize that risk. Uh, can you just elaborate on that for us? Yeah, 100%.SPEAKER_01 6:53
I mean, what what we’ve been told, at least from our advisors, was look, if you’re operating as a Christian business and you can’t tell based on your mission statement and your values, uh, then it’s going to be a surprise, so to speak. So if you have somebody working in your organization, you never want them to go, hey, I didn’t know. And so for us, we just wanted to put it out front and make sure from the time someone came in and was interviewed or even looked to our website that they would clearly see that our bab our our values were rooted in uh biblical, the word of God, if you will. Uh, they would know from the very start that that was foundational to the business. And it actually lowers your risk when you do that. You wouldn’t think it, but it’s actually works the opposite of what you might think.SPEAKER_00 7:40
Yeah. Yeah. But it’s you got to manage those expectations, right? I mean, like you say, if it’s uh, I mean, if it’s a surprise that there is a Bible study that happens or that prayer happens in the meetings, people are gonna be they’re gonna be shocked, they’re gonna they’re gonna be offended, and then they’re gonna react, you know, kind of that that knee-jerk reaction. But if they know that that this is part of the culture, it’s like, well, that’s on you. Like, why did you why did you join this team? Um, what were you trying to subvert, you know, what what we were doing here? And then it’s kind of back on them. Uh so that’s a that’s a real it’s such a great point. Um, Scott, as you look back on your experience and and the impact that you’ve made through Gulf Winds, um, what’s one of your favorite stories that illustrates the impact that’s been made through this great company? Well, there’s so many stories.SPEAKER_01 8:41
Um, it’s hard to pick out one. Um, I can say that uh I would I would tell one story that that really gets to the heart of why I think business as ministry is so important. And I write this about this story in the book, but we had a difficult client that was in the Dallas market. We were handling a lot of imported stone, tile and stone at the time. And uh I was going up to visit with this gentleman, and he actually handed me a book that was by Sam Harris called The End of Faith. Now, mind you, I’m thinking, what do I do with this? But I took it home. I actually read some of the book so that we could exchange some dialogue on. And I actually sent him uh More Than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell. And so he read that book, read it very quickly, sent me an email shortly thereafter. He was very interested. And I felt like the Lord was already working on this gentleman’s heart. Now, mind you, he sent me a book written by an atheist. He gave it to me in my hands when I visited with him in his office. And so I then took, I said, Hey, Bill, if you if you really love that book, there’s another one by Lee Strobel called The Case for Christ. One’s kind of the Cliff Notes version, Case for Christ is a little bit more in depth. And he said, Yeah, I want it. Send it to me. So I sent it up there. At this point, I’m praying, Lord, I know that you’re working on his heart. And uh, it was a really exciting time. And so he literally devoured it in like a week and reached out to me and said, Don’t come to Dallas without visiting with me. And so literally we went up. Next time I went up there, I said, Look, let’s have lunch. We went to a little Italian restaurant. And I was about 35 at the time. Mind you, he was probably in his mid-60s. He was a very uh difficult client in the sense that he was a tough negotiator. But literally, he broke down in tears at that lunch. And I saw that God had had broken the walls down and what was kind of a tough outward appearance just kind of all fell away as he really understood that God not only loved him, but had a plan and a purpose for his life. And so we literally got to pray for him to receive Christ on the spot that day. But it even got better than that. So now I’m thinking, how do I get this guy into a church? You know, I’m in Houston, he’s in Dallas, but God being God, I went back home and I was thinking, who do I know? Pastors in Dallas. And I just remember early in my Christian walk, Chuck Swendall, Pastor Chuck Swindah had a great influence on me. So I just looked up where his church was, and it was in Frisco, Texas. So I pick up the phone, I call, I call Bill, I say, Hey, Bill, where do you live? And he goes, Frisco, Texas. And so only God can write those kind of things up. Uh, I literally got on a plane a few weeks later. He went, he actually got baptized in his church. And so just to see that, you know, here I was handed a book by an atheist, it started a conversation. I was in a place where where most people aren’t going to walk into a church. Bill probably wasn’t gonna walk into a church, but I had a personal relationship with him through business, and it opened a door to share really the greatest hope in the world, which is the gospel of Jesus.SPEAKER_00 11:43
Yeah. And that as powerful as those books are, uh, you know, uh I I I would I would be very surprised if the book itself would change somebody’s life. I think the combination of your example and the respect that he had for you combined with because he he would have never even read the book had it not come from uh somebody that he respected in business and had that relationship with. Uh, but that’s that’s the that’s the difference maker for those of us in the marketplace, is that we have relationships with people that will never go to church. Uh if if if it wasn’t for God working through us to to help them undergo a life change and then want to make that decision to to give their life to Christ and get on board with his his plan for their life. What a what an incredible story. Um can you give us some more specifics about the specific ways in which your business practices have glorified God in in the company as a whole, not only your personal conduct in business, but the culture of Gulf Winds.SPEAKER_01 13:04
Yeah, well, I think the value system kind of speaks to it faith, integrity, stewardship, service, and excellence. At the end of the day, if we believe he owns it all, then obviously we want to do it with excellence. If we’re stewarding something that’s that’s greater than us, then we have a greater responsibility. And so I think um everything from just prayer with our executive team and even our staff over lunch meetings, uh, Bible studies, uh, obviously putting our mission statement on the wall is one thing, but really living it out is something else. And so always sought to try and bring people into opportunities. I said leadership, in leadership, you have the opportunity to put people in a position to hear from God. And at the end of the day, I can’t change their heart, but I know that there’s a God that loves them deeply that can. And so it’s one of the reasons why we took a lot of our people on mission trips as an example. Um, a lot of times we had people that went who did not know Christ, but they would go on these trips and they would experience the love of Christ. I put a lot of those testimonies in the book, but we’ve we had people who said, I’ve never experienced love like this, even I’ve never experienced a church like this. And so they come home with a different view of God. And uh, I think that glorifies God obviously anytime we we expose people to his goodness, his grace, his mercy, his love. They met people who had nothing yet had everything. And of course, in the States, you know, we have a lot. So uh this side of heaven, often we think we have it bad, but you go to a third world country, as you know, and all of a sudden your whole world perspective changes, your worldview changes because you realize how blessed you really are to be in this place that we call the United States. And so um, yeah, I mean, praying before uh sales meetings, I mean, praying as we go in and looking for opportunities to love our clients well. I think it’s super important, right? If you’re if you’re gonna put up a mission statement like we have, that when you make a mistake, that you pay for it, that you do the right thing. Uh obviously being in the logistics business, it’s quite common, unfortunately, for uh stories, if you will, to be made up. Trucks late, what happened? Why isn’t he here? And uh just trying to do things with with honor and integrity. Um, tell the truth, the the simple things that uh will build trust with clients that brings them back over and over. Uh, but I think more than anything, it’s just again being being bold and um and knowing that, hey, if God owns it all, then he’s the one that can multiply. And uh I just really believe that to my core. And uh I remember many times with conversations with employees uh over the years or team members that, you know, I remember one in particular who for 10 years, you know, he he didn’t participate in our Bible study, but in it took him 10 years to one day say, hey, there must be something to this. And he joined us. And that gentleman later actually came to faith, became a deacon in his church. Uh, his whole family literally started going to church. And uh he has since passed away, but but man, his his whole life really uh changed all because of some consistent walk with the Lord that was lived out in front of him. And he never would have probably seen that because he wasn’t a part of a church. And so I think it’s so important as believers, if we’re gonna operate in the space of business as ministry, that not only do we do it with excellence and love and mercy and grace, but we have to do it at a level that that attracts people that says, I want to be a part of this. And I feel like at Gulf Winds, we were able to do that. And we actually wound up really inviting people that really could have worked anywhere. They could have worked for Exxon, but they were attracted to a greater purpose. And I think everyone’s attracted to a greater purpose at their core. God’s word obviously tells us that we’re we’re born with a hole in our heart that only he can fill. And so uh when we give them that opportunity uh to be about more, even if they don’t know the Lord, there’s a joy, there’s a fulfillment in that. And hope we hope always that eventually they come to Christ and and have that uh that wonderful conversion experience where they know that they are uh secure in Him for eternity. That’s obviously our hope, but but only God can change a heart. So I think living out our faith, though, is so important in front of them in the marketplace. And we never do that more effectively than when we do it with excellence and provide a great service and a great place to work, right? Uh we we would take, we we paid for some of our employees to go to college, you know. We tried to uh be generous in the way that we operated and ran the business. And those people people respect those things, whether they know the Lord or whether they don’t.SPEAKER_00 17:54
Yeah. You mentioned earlier about how there’s a a certain status quo in the logistics industry where if you were following the pattern of this world, you may have handled the situation this way. But because you are are a kingdom company, you’re a Christ-centered company, uh, what how did you handle that situation differently? Could you tell us a story to kind of illustrate that?SPEAKER_01 18:23
Yeah, I think uh, I mean, looking back, there’s obviously there’s so many stories. Um I can tell an internal story that I think is is a great one. And that that has to do with the the partnership that my dad had. My dad had actually gifted uh 50% of our business to a partner that did not have any financial investment, the business, when we founded the business. This gentleman was very involved in the business, and uh I actually worked for him for a long time. Um, but he got to a point where life circumstances took him in a different direction. And so uh we wound up being at a crossroads, 50-50 ownership, and we had to figure out how to get out of that relationship because he wanted out of the business, wanted to sell the business, and we obviously wanted to continue to run the business. And so uh that was a real divide. And so I think in that moment, most people in the world would have probably wound up in court. Uh, but for us, uh, we figured out a way to come together as uh the leaders, and not that it was easy, it was very, very difficult. Uh, we actually wound up buying that gentleman out over a longer term period. Uh, but I think working through things in a biblical manner uh versus just running to the ways of the world uh ultimately played out better for our people, even though it might have cost us more as owners. Does that make sense?SPEAKER_00 19:43
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And now that you’ve sold the business, which was pretty recently, right? It wasn’t very long. Just was it just in the last year? The end of uh 2022. 2022. And and so you know, there’s I think a lot of people would assume that, okay, well, this is this was Todd, you know, Todd is on fire for God. Of course, the company is going to be centered, its culture is gonna be centered on the Lord. But you know, when another owner owner comes along, probably not so much. Like what was that transition like, not just of the ownership, but of the the the definition of that culture that you had spent all of those years instilling?SPEAKER_01 20:32
Yeah, well, I think ultimately you you’re your people are a reflection of the culture. And so one of the things that I had to trust, uh, even when I got to the point where I knew for the first time in my life, I never anticipated I would sell the business, by the way. I I got to a point where for the first time in my life, I realized that God could do more with me outside the business than he could inside. And that was a real uh that was a real moment in my life that that I’ll never forget because I never anticipated that I would move in that direction. But transitions, every business transitions. I had always heard that. The question was how? I’m an only child. So but neither of my kids were really interested in moving on with the business. Uh, my son’s in ministry and my daughter is a stay-at-home wife. So uh I had to think about transition. What was that going to look like? And what would be uh how how would I how would that play out? And most importantly, how could we continue the ministry of the business even beyond the business itself? And so that’s what really led me to that point. Uh, it was right after um we got through COVID and it was a real boom for for the logistics space. Uh, so many people needed trucks, they needed chassis, they needed the services that we offered. And so I just had a piece that that was the direction uh ultimately that we should go. And for me, um, I actually allowed my team to kind of lead that um that process. And a lot of owners. Would probably never do that because it’s literally like saying, here’s my baby, and you’re going to take it to market, so to speak. And so I did that because I felt that was the right thing to do, even though I was only going to have a very small stake post-sale. I just felt like it was their decision ultimately because we’re we were a team. And while yes, God allowed me to be the owner, so to speak, uh, I had a wonderful team of people there. And God brought the right people at different times and seasons to play their role within the business, whether that’s HR, whether that was in training, uh, operations, sales, over the years, the right people in the right time. And I had to trust that God was going to uh take care of those people to even move ahead with this. Uh, but to think, I mean, the other way I could have thought about it was I’m the only way that this, and I don’t think that’s a biblical approach. I think ultimately if you believe that that God owns it all, then you have to trust Him also with your people. And so for me, sometimes that was really difficult because some of those people are not with golf winds today. But even just having read the parable of the sower, I think about how God scatters seed. And so many people they they get established in a wonderful culture, and then they’re able to take that culture somewhere else. And so I was blessed to see some of that. Even today, I have some of those people who even own their own businesses today. And so it’s wonderful to know that that it doesn’t depend on us. And I think sometimes in this business as ministry, we can get so caught up in you have to continue the business, you have to do this. Sometimes, yes, that’s the answer. But really, it’s what does God want me to do? Because ultimately it’s his will that we have to follow in our life. And for me, it was it was going through the sale and then transitioning a portion of that sale into a foundation that I could continue to do ministry uh long term. And and honestly, today I’m I’m able to do more even financially than I was in the business. And so God did indeed multiply it through the sale. And uh, as it relates to the business itself, there’s still a lot of people that are there uh that did work and under my care. It’s it’s absolutely a different place than it was when I was there, but they’re still the same people. And so I know that they still have a ministry within that organization. And people who have been brought in from the outside will be exposed to some of that. So um I don’t think there’s a there’s a right or a wrong answer. And I think in business as ministry, we have to be very careful about just building a specific box that we keep God in. There’s lots of options as it relates to how to transition a business in a way that’s honoring to God. For me, this was the way that God led me, but for someone else, maybe it’s an Aesop, maybe it’s a different way to go about it. Um, I just would encourage whoever is owning a business to think about it because that day will come. And the question is, are you prepared? Have you thought about what it is going to look like to carry that mission forward? For me, it was through a foundation after the sale, but it might be different for someone else.SPEAKER_00 25:08
Yeah, yeah, that that’s a powerful perspective, especially for anyone who is embarking on that that transition right now. Uh, was upholding the Christ-centered culture any sort of a precondition for the sale, or was that kind of uh, you know, not not really a precondition, but something that is you were just focused more on the the financial legal part of it.SPEAKER_01 25:41
Yeah, it wasn’t a precondition for us, right? For some, it might be. Uh, I just I felt like the opportunity financially, uh, both from a ministry perspective, but remember also for our people. Remember, if you can get, let’s say, let’s say I would have gotten half of what I got, right? From a uh what you would call maybe a Christ-centered uh now, there’s more and more options. Let me encourage that. Uh, there’s more and more options for people today than there was at the end 2022. There’s a big market now for uh people who are are purchasing companies that want to run Christ-centered companies. In 2022, there wasn’t as many options. In fact, I remember, like I said, one who the opportunity was there, and it was literally uh literally a third of what we would have gotten going through the the normal markets. And so uh for me, uh that just didn’t make any sense. I mean, we were able to bless people within our organization through this sale as well, and so that would have been greatly reduced had we gone that route. But I am very encouraged that there’s more and more people operating in that redemptive PE space because I think there’s definitely a lane for that and it’s happening. And uh I was a I was kind of pre that. In fact, most wouldn’t even look at us because of our size, but uh it was an opportunity for us, and uh yeah, that’s what I experienced with it.SPEAKER_00 27:07
Yeah. Well, when the Lord says you’re gonna do more in a different role, uh it’s it’s time to it’s time to move, you know, it’s time to go do what God says to do. Um, even if it’s uh I’m sure it was extremely bittersweet for you.SPEAKER_01 27:26
Uh I think it’s so important too, even for for folks to understand that to move from season to season, like you have to release fully where you’ve been. Yeah, and that’s so important. And so many, you know, you you hold on in that last season, and so therefore you don’t fully embrace what God has for you in this season. And that’s a message that everyone needs. It’s it’s hard and difficult, but as we release open hands, open hearts, I always say, uh, there’s just such a peace. And then it’s amazing how how God, the flow, I call it, how you just start to move in the spirit as you release and operate in where God is calling you to. And so it’s a great opportunity.SPEAKER_00 28:09
Yes, yes. Well, tell us about uh what you’re up to now and how people can connect with what you’re doing. Yeah.SPEAKER_01 28:18
So we we we had a foundation in the business and it was called More Than the Move. It’s about more than moving freight. So we were already doing a lot of ministry, church planning internationally. Uh we would take our people on mission trips, those kinds of things, give money towards Christian nonprofits. And so when I sold, we we changed the name of the the uh foundation to Hope Legacy Collective. We want to restore hope in the lives of people. We do that by supporting small to mid-sized Christian nonprofits. Uh, we want to create a legacy for our business owners. We also believe that we’re better together collectively. And so Hope Legacy Collective is the space that we operate in now. Uh, I brought with me uh Jamie Hampton, who’s the executive director of Hope Legacy Collective for me. He also ran our foundation when I had the business. And so today we get the joy of literally connecting with other foundations in our city. Houston’s such an international hub for the gospel. So we get to connect and work on projects together. As an example, one thing we’re working on right now with a number of other foundations in our city is the World Cups coming to Houston. And so there’s a there’s a uh a ministry opportunity that we’re calling winning Houston. And you’ve got all these sports ministries coming together, being funded by foundations, churches, and other things. So we’re we’re working on collective impact to further the gospel. And I can’t think of anything more joy-giving than that. Uh, so we really enjoy uh playing a small part in in our city and helping that, and and obviously that those tentacles spread all over the world.
SPEAKER_00 29:50
Yeah. Well, it’s exciting, all the the ventures that you’re involved in now with advancing the gospel as you’ve always been doing, you know, in Gulf Winds and now and now beyond. And and I’m I’m really glad that you have the perspective about the way that the culture of Gulf Winds rubbed off on the people in the organization to continue to influence Gulf Winds, but then those who have now gone on to start other companies. And I mean, they will never forget the influence um that was made on their life during that that experience because it’s so it’s so different. It’s so, I mean, almost no one has experienced anything like a Christ-centered company, you know, working in that kind of an environment where the leaders really are dedicated to the Lord and want the the organization and and the highest purpose of that organization to be in service to the Lord. Um, so toddstewart.com is the website, and you’ve also got this book about your story, uh Delivering Hope, Leading a Business That Builds the Kingdom of God. Um, everybody go check out those resources, toddstewart.com. Todd, thank you so much for being so generous with your time and sharing your wisdom and journey with us today. We’re all better for it. Thank you, Darren. I appreciate it. And thanks for being a part of multiplying the gospel. Thanks for listening to this episode of the Christian Business Leader Podcast. Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and tune in for the next episode as we continue exploring God’s will and ways for business.
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